Philadelphia Experiment: Aliens, Time-Travel and Wormholes
Source: INTERVIEW: Al Bielek Conducted by Susanne Konicov from CONNECTING
LINK Issue 19 SpiritWeb
6th September 1992
I have heard Al Bielek speak on the "Philadelphia Experiment " at several
expos over the last two years. The material he presents is both astounding
and appalling! Last September, at the Los Angeles Whole Life Expo, Al
consented to do an interview for Connecting Link. First you will read
Alls account of the years leading up to the "Philadelphia Experiment.
" Then, for the first time in any magazine, Al shares further information
on other, less known experiments that continue to this day. Experiments
that took place, and apparently, still do, at Montauk, Long Island.
Alfred Bielek was born on August 4, 1916 as Edward A. Cameron II, son
of Alexander Duncan Cameron, Sr.
About Al Bielek
My father (Alexander Duncan Cameron, Sr.) enlisted in the U.S. Navy
prior to the U.S. entry into World War 1. He sired me and later A. Duncan
Cameron, Jr. (May 1917), by different mothers.
Both Duncan and I, as half-brothers, were raised largely by Aunt Arnold
in the Big House, still in West Islip, Long Island (father remained
in the Navy until 1930, when he was retired with a pension). Since there
was no lack of money (due to the Arnold/Constable Department Store fortune),
Duncan Jr. and I (upon completion of high school) attended different
universities. I went first to Princeton, and later to Harvard, obtaining
a Ph.D. in physics. Duncan attended the University of Edinborough (Edinborough,
Scotland), also obtaining a Ph.D. in physics, in the summer of 1939.
In September of 1939, both Duncan and I enlisted in the U.S. Navy-taking
commissions as Lt. (J.G.) and then attending a 90-day training school
for "Special Assignment" Navy personnel at Providence, Rhode Island.
With completion of training, we were both assigned to the Institute
of Advanced Study (Princeton, N.J.) and directly to the ongoing "Project
With a completely successful test in 1940 (Brooklyn Navy Yard), the
project was classified and renamed "Project Rainbow." Offices were set
up in the Philadelphia Navy Yard. Duncan and I both shuttled back and
forth between Philadelphia and Princeton.
In January 1941, we were sent to sea for sea duty on the U.S.S. Pennsylvania.
We toured the Pacific until October 194 1, when the Pennsylvania was
put in dry dock at Pearl Harbor. After taking leave in San Francisco
and remaining there through December 1941, we were returned to the Institute
early in January 1942. We worked on the project through 1942-Nikola
Tesla dropped out in March 1942, and Dr. John Von Neumann took over
at that time.
Duncan and I remained with the Project through the two tests in 1943
with the "Eldridge." The second test, August 12, 1943, was a total disaster,
with many casualties and with Duncan disappearing permanently.
I remained with the Navy and married in late 1943. A son, Jess, was
bom in February 1944. In July 1944, the family and I were transferred
to Los Alamos, New Mexico, where I remained until July 2, 1947. At that
time I was forcibly removed and separated from my family-never to see
them again. With charges of espionage placed against me, I expected
a General Court Marshal. Instead I was transferred to Washington, D.
C., whereupon charges were dropped and I was transferred to Montauk,
L.I. military base (Fort Hero). From that point I was time shifted to
1983, back in the Phoenix Project. Once there, I was given a super brainwashing-all
memory was removed. Additionally, I was age regressed (reduction of
physical age and size from a 30-year old to approximately I year of
age) and then, at a physical age of I year, sent back in time to 1927
to be plugged into a new family as a substitute for a dead son. This
new family- the Bieleks- became my only known parents for over half
With the advent of World War II, I was drafted into the Navy in 1945
(a second tour) as a seaman until 1946. After separating from the service,
I tried a business venture (it failed) and went on to college (1949-1950)
in Newark, New Jersey, and later to UCLA. A career followed as an electronic
engineer (1958-1988), with retirement in 1988.
With the return of my memories, in May 1986, of the Phoenix Project
and of the Philadelphia Experiment (Project Rainbow) in January 1988,
1 have engaged in extensive lecturing and writing on the subject of
The Philadelphia Experiment, its ramifications and the follow-on Project
Phoenix, and the incredible consequences of the lockup through time.
CONNECTING LINK: Tell me about the Phoenix Project.
AL BIELEK. I'll deal with the final phase of the Phoenix Project and
some of the aspects involved. I joined the project in 1953 as Al Bielek.
I did what the book The Montauk Project1
points out, the computer interface between the psychic chair used to
steer the time tunnels in the final phase of the operations. Those earlier
phases were very difficult-they didn't work right and they had many
problems. But, I became involved as Al Bielek. Preston Nichols became
involved as Preston Nichols, and Duncan Cameron became involved as Duncan
Cameron, in his second body, not remembering anything about his involvement
with the Philadelphia Experiment. The project generated the time tunnels.
People were able to travel in time and space and they did. But they
also had other projects going on at Montauk. We still don't know all
of them. The technology for the tunnels was given to us by cooperative
effort of alien groups, primarily the Orion group, which involved reptilians,
a sub group called the Leverons. A technical group which provided most
of the assistance, was the group from Sirius A. Very materialistic,
scientific, people. Perhaps not a bad heart but misdirected, because
they had very long-term contracts with the Orions to provide them with
the technical knowledge and assistance they needed. And they were working
with our govenment in secret to work out mindcontrol techniques and
technology and pushing for a highly automated, technical society which
would be much easier to control than it would be the way it is now.
But we're approaching that rapidly.
Also there were a lot of little greys that got underfoot. There were
other groups there who took no part in the project, but were there as
observers and the group from Antares, very human, very happy, jovial
people. You couldn't tell them from a human spirit. In fact, I don't
think you could anatomically either. Why they were there, I don't know.
They didn't do anything. They were observers.
But the aliens provided the expertise, the hardware. They convened it
from their computer data to IBM 360. That still didn't work and that's
when other changes were made. I became heavily involved in making the
time tunnel system work. It was alien technology. We did not have the
theory. We did have the capability, the technological expertise to build
the hardware, and we did, to their specifications.
ITT was a contractor. This was all under "Black Card" clearance level,
which is about the highest level of clearance there is, and most people
don't even know it exists. And this means, in essence, that it is such
a deep Black Hole project that all the records, everything connected
with it, is buried in a black vault and nobody has access to this without
having the proper clearance and a need to know. This includes purchasing
departments who buy the hardware for these projects. The records for
the sales, purchase, everything, buried in the black vault. So nobody
can find it. This is why they call it a Black Hole project. There are
many, many of these. This is one of them.
The tunnels became fully operational about '77 after many changes. About
'79 on they got all the results they wanted. Until August 12,1983, at
night, when the project was deliberately crashed. Sabotaged from the
inside. That's covered in the book. But prior to that what they did
was unbelievable. One of the uses of the Phoenix Project, in the use
of Time Tunnels, was to provide backup to the Martian Colonies. The
Martian Colonies have been there since the early '70s. We went publicly
to the moon in 1969. Actually the Germans were there in 1947. And we
were there in 1962 with a joint U.S.-Russian expedition. They went to
Mars, May 22, 1962. The movie, Alternative 3, done by Anglia Television,
April 1, 1977, which is available in the underground, outlines it completely.
It shows the actual transmission. The colour shots by TV back from Mars,
as this Explorer moved and landed. We have colonies there in Mars from
the late '60's or maybe early '70's onward. They found many artefacts
there. There is more than one wrecked city. And of course the famous
face on Mars, the Pyramids and that whole complex that Hoagland (Dr.
Richard] has talked about and gone public on. There are two videos on
this plus his book.
What they found on the surface indicated there was much more there that
they could not find that was buried. And they had not brought with them,
and did not have the capabilities of heavy earth-moving equipment on
Mars at that time. They didn't have any Cats. Big tractors and that
sort of stuff. They were too heavy to bring up.
So, a request went by radio back to Earth, "We believe there are underground
installations here. We've seen openings that are sealed. Can you guys
down there tell us what to do?" Well, the information went to Montauk,
to the Phoenix Project. And they sent back information, "Well, give
us some coordinates on the surface of Mars where you think these locations
are." And they did. And they said, "We'll investigate it." And they
did. Because they could go anyplace with the tunnel, they went to Mars
to the coordinates. And first they didn't send anybody. They ran a tunnel
into what they thought might be an underground area and rather than
risk killing anybody by burying them in solid rock, they sent a camera,
a remote-view camera. We found out there was an actual cavern and it
was safe and then Montauk sent people. Duncan and I were in that crew.
The first crew that went, directed by Montauk to explore the underground
of Mars. It's not mentioned in the book who went, but we went. And there
were probably others. We went several times. We found all kinds of artifacts.
We found a still functional underground lighting system, a power system.
We found it and turned it on and it still worked. No evidence of life.
A lot of artifacts, files, records, religious artifacts, statuary, all
stored like it was a store room. A huge store room.
CL: Was the written material in English?
AB: No. It was in another language. It was not English. Duncan was able
to translate some of it. I saw it, but I was not able to translate it.
And a lot of the records and stuff were brought back. And eventually
Duncan and I decided to take some clandestine trips on our own. (After
one trip is made, it's all recorded. All the coordinates and information
which are required to operate the system is recorded on magnetic tape.
And you can take this tape, plug it into the computer, and without going
through the psychic and the chair number*, you can open the tunnel to
the same location because the computer contains all the celestial data-all
the Earth movements, solar system movements, all in the computer-so
that there is complete reference to the new location where the planet
would be. And "plug" the tunnel in exactly the same location.) So we
went twice on our own for our own little explorations.
CL: And no one was manning the machine for you back home?
AB: We tumed the equipment on, we knew how to do it. And nobody was
there. On the second trip, we were discovered because, there are automatic
recorders that tell how many times this equipment is used, and for what
purpose, and what dates, times and so forth. Automatic complete time,
event recorders. So we were caught when we came back. We were pulled
off the project and slapped on the wrist. "You're not going to do that
anymore," and one of the people who was involved, a senior scientist,
broke our team up. Duncan and I didn't do much of anything together
after that but further explorations were made by others. What they found,
we don't know.
Certain people had been chosen in advance, such as myself and Duncan
and Preston to be part of this program. And the level of brainwashing
varied. Duncan was heavily programmed, brainwashed to do what he did
there because he was not being used for his technical expertise. I was
brainwashed to some extent, and Preston, very heavily.
But we were all given what you'd call the debriefing after this whole
project crashed and was formally declared over on January 1, 1984. We
all got our debriefings which means your mind was erased of everything
you ever did on the project. And they hoped it would hold indefinitely.
It didn't. The reason it did not hold indefinitely was because the site
was not destroyed. It's still there. It was turned over to New York
State Parks Commission on January I of 1986 or sometime in January of
1986 to become part of the park that already exists out there. The State
has never torn anything up. They've never tom a building down. They've
never opened it up as a park.
They knocked the fences down so people can go through there and hike
and camp if they want, during the day. They cannot stay overnight without
a special permit from Montauk Township. That's not allowed and the park
rangers go in to shuttle them out.
But the property remains unconverted. Going in there, as I did, first
in August of '85 by the invite of Preston (I took Duncan with me), none
of us knew, at that time, that we had been part of the Montauk Project.
Preston, as a surplus electronics dealer, had been out there salvaging
equipment previous to this trip in August.
CL: That's where the book, The Montauk Project starts.
AB: Right. And he didn't know that he had been involved. He had no recollection.
This August trip [Preston] took us out and said "You're both sensitives.
Let's see what you pick up when we go out there." He says, "I know you've
never been there before." He didn't know, honestly, at that point. So
we went out and we sensed these terrible vibes on the base, that something
awful had been going on there. We sensed this monster, who showed up
at the end of the story, that helped in the process of the destruction
of this station.
They [Preston and Duncan] of course, had the advantage, being as I was
only visiting, and went back to Phoenix. They were there in repeatedly,
and they became aware of their involvement in the project much earlier
then I did. I went back [to Montauk] in May of '86 and made another
visit along with a group from Phoenix sponsored by, I believe, Senator
Barry Goldwater. Because I told this group, whom I knew from December
of '85, about the project and they came out to make an investigation
of possible diversion of federal funds from a regular federal project
to an illegal project. They were looking for proof. And that was their
modus operandi, their reason for getting passes from the State of New
York, from the Parks Commission, to go on the base, into locked buildings.
There were still some locked. And find what proof, if any, as to whether
this was a diversionary project using federal funds.
We know now no federal money was involved. Major investigations have
proven this. But in the process we took a lot of pictures, and in that
same visit that time of May '86 my memory of Montauk started to come
backbecause I was visiting the site, the scene of the crime, if you
CL: And it was acting as the trigger.
AB: This was the trigger. The same for Duncan, same for Preston. So
my memories came back. I knew then I was part of it. And they've been
coming back ever since because it doesn't all come back at once in a
rush. It comes back in chunks and pieces, depending upon what the triggers
are that bring it back. But once you've punched a hole through the wall,
it's like the finger in the dike. The hole starts expanding and it keeps
expanding and eventually it will all come through.
So I knew, finally, I was heavily involved at an administrative and
engineering level in many projects. Duncan was involved in more than
Preston was the technical station master after Matthew Zaret. Professor
Zaret was removed in 1980. Really, he left at my suggestion, but they
wouldn't let him loose, so he went to the parallel project at Brentwood,
Long Island, where he died. Preston took over as the technical director,
doing all of the management. He designed and built all of the RF transmitters
and pulse modulator systems-anything dealing with RF2
and transmitters he is an expert at. And that was his expertise and
his normal working job, as he was employed by an aerospace company in
Long Island for fifteen years until he was fired two summers ago. He
was fired but they covered it. It was because he knew too much and talked
too much in the open, had recovered too many of his memories and was
talking about information at the USPA [United States Psychotronic Association]
conferences, more than once, which the govemment didn't want made public.
So they pulled his clearance first, and then they canned him in July
of '90 while at a USPA conference. He came back to no job, He was told,
"You're finished, pick up your stuff and leave." And his boss didn't
even know why. His boss didn't fire him. It was govemment manipulation.
He was an expert at designing transmitters, high-power transmitters,
for radar, for whatever. In this case, the Montauk Project, for the
final stages of a special Amplitron, which is shown in the book-there
is a photo of it. It was designed and built specially for the project
by Raytheon Electric in Goleta, Califomia.3
I remember going out there to approve the first shipment of tubes. They
were very, very expensive and specially built. They cost several million
dollars apiece. They ordered thousands. So you can see why the cost
of this project went out of sight. Capacitors for the pulse-forming
networks and the modulator were also specially designed to very rigid
specifications. They finally got somebody to build them. And everybody
in the industry except one tumed them down. They finally were able to
build them to the specifications, and they sold them to the govemment
in matched sets of fifty at the very small sum of twenty-five thousand
dollars for each and every capacitor. And they had a hundred on each
station. A full set of fifty for two transmitters, operational, and
a full set of spares. So that was two and a half million dollars right
theretimes 25 stations! They ran out of gold. (The project was begun
with 10 billion dollars in g old. The story of the gold is documented
in the book Nazi Gold.)3 They ran out of
money. So ITT picked up the tab.
CL: And all this technology was from the alien groups?
AB: They had cooperation from the ET's. See, they had a crashed UFO
which was deliberately crashed, by agreement with Hitler, by a certain
group of Pleiadians. It was loaded with technology. And the reason for
crashing it was that the German High Command, if they were pushed, could
say, "Yeah we found a crashed saucer in the Bavarian Alps" or some such
place, "and we recovered it, took it apart and analyzed the technology."
It certainly wasn't made public. But the remains of that craft were
found near Peenemunde after the war was over. This was the rocket testing
base for the Germans and where Wernher Von Braun operated along with
his crew. When the war was over, he deliberately moved his group to
the west, to the Americans. And another group was captured by the Russians,
including, I believe, his professor, Herman Oberth. Of course that is
where the Russians got a head start on rocketry over the U. S. -they
had the professor who taught Wernher Von Braun!
There may have been someone else because the Russians captured quite
a number of intelligencia out of Germany when Berlin came under their
control. So the war actually received a huge boost, technologically
from the Pleiadians. So far as deals are concerned, Roosevelt made the
first one in the U.S. in 1934, not with the Pleiadians, who offered
to help the U.S. get out of the doldrums of the huge depression we were
in, but he chose a different group for whatever personal reasons we
don't know. Called the K Group or the Kondroshkin. It turns out, so
far as I can determine today, they are the bluegreys. Not the little
greys, but a larger group called the blue-greys. In any case, he made
his deal with them. They made an offer to provide a whole new technological
base for the United States atomic energy in 1938. Roosevelt at first
approved and then he turned it down because the military told him, "Uh
uh. We can't control it from beginning to end. We don't know what they
are going to do with it and how they may manipulate us in the end."
So they [the K-Group] disappeared in the woodwork.
In 1943 came the Philadelphia Experiment and the lock-up with the Phoenix
Project, ripping a huge hole in space-time. This was deliberately done
by the aliens at the '83 end to put a rift in the fabric of space-time
so large numbers of aliens and ships could come through. They all had
time travel capabilities, but the rift was needed to get the large ships
through and make a mass invasion of the United States, and later Europe,
of aliens (primarily greys) and other types. When they landed at Edwards
Air Force Base in the Muroc Dry Lake as well as another air baseI'm
leaving a lot of details out-the govemment already knew all about the
aliens being on this planet. [They knew] since 1887 with the first investigating
commission under Grover Cleveland.
In any case, they knew that they were here, but then they came en masse.
We were confronted by a technology that we couldn't counter, we couldn't
handle it, we didn't know what to do about it. So the agreement with
Eisenhower and his advisors was to sign a treaty with them, a non-interference
treaty and get what technology we could from them-make some kind of
agreement. We'd buy time and see what we could do about it later.
That was the basis of the agreement Because of that, very large numbers
of aliens came in and eventually became part of the Phoenix Project.
They were planning ahead. We didn't know what they were up to. And I'm
looking at this in retrospect, not what we knew then. They were planning
ahead. They knew what they were doing. They manoeuvred and manipulated
the Phoenix Project. They did not expect it to crash then. I am sure
they anticipate its continuing for another decade, at least into the
However, because certain people suddenly, if you will pardon the expression,
"saw the light," got religion, or whatever it is that hit them, Duncan,
and a few others, conspired to destroy the station. And the reason for
it was that they were fed up with what they saw as all the evils perpetrated
I knew about it. I decided that I would not be part of the destructive
plot. I said, "Yes, there is a lot wrong here, but we've already straightened
a lot of the mess out and we can straighten out the rest and continue
this as a research tool," as John VonNeumann (who is still alive today
by the way) wanted. He said, "It's a research tool; we need it." Because
of the time travel (remote viewing) capabilities, he saw things coming
in the future which could cause very serious threats to the United States
and the World.
But, these people had their way. They put a special implant into Duncan's
head so that when we, as the original Duncan Cameron and myself as Edward
Cameron, came through from the Philadelphia Experiment and went through
the station (for twelve hours) we were retumed to the Elderidge; then
the Elderidge retumed to '43. At that point, that phase was over and
it completed the time loop.
Then the word went out, "Now is the time" and Duncan released this thing
from his subconscious into the machine. The transmitter (which already
by that time had its own personality) created this big monster, solidly
in 3-D, twelve to fifteen feet high and [it] literally came out of the
subconscious. It went around smashing buildings and people and it was
discovered trying to break into the radar tower. The tower was much
too strong for it to break into. The only way to stop it was to destroy
the transmitter, and that's what was done. And it faded out into some
other reality. It was photographed in May of 1986.
But the final chapter on Montauk was not written. We discovered a month
ago [Aug., 1992] that Montauk was reactivated. And that's what I wanted
to get in here. We do not know who is doing it. We have seen the evidence.
New coax cable runs, new power transformers being put in on the power
substation. The new ones are labeled "non PCB." Because now the law
is that transformers can no longer be filled with PCB as a cooling agent:
if they blow up or break open it's an extreme hazard to the environment.
So they use an environmentally safe coolant-a different form of liquid
in the transformers and they have big labels on them that say non-PCB.
I have pictures of this, from my trip a month ago. There are new coax
cable runs around the base which are brand new.
The radar tower now has a new steel door where it used to be wide open
and you could walk in. They put a new steel door in with double padlocks
so you can't get in . The back garage entrance door for trucks and delivering
heavy stuff is now sealed from the inside. And we found other evidence
that shows that it's being reactivated.
Preston has been approached by the govemment to become the director
of the New Montauk project, And they told him they also want Duncan
as part of it. There are new workers there. There are new entrances
to the underground. One person we know has been through the outer door
and there is an inner locked door with a red light on it. You, have
to have special access badges or you'll be stopped.
We did not attempt to go in because we didn't feel we wanted to risk
it. And we do not know where the project may go, but we suspect that
one of the goals is to extend the time rift ('43 to '83) onward to '93
because '93 is a subnode point in the 20-year cycle, and August, '93
will be a very critical area again and they probably want the station
activated before August of '93. That's what we feel technically they
are up to. But what the end purpose is for we are not sure. It may be
to extend the time tunnel, that is, the time rift, for purposes of their
There are a lot of things on this project we don't know. Some of the
things they used it for we still don't know. We have never had access
to the classified records of Lincoln Labs at M.I.T. (Cambridge, MA).
They have not been able to take Duncan and myself out because of the
fact that we help hold the whole time rift stable. It will stabilize
itself by the year 2003 unless they reopen it. Then you have another
can of worms to deal with.
They just don't realize what risks they are running in reopening that
thing. The rift was stabilized in '63, or this North American continent
would now be under salt water. Not from the year 2000, but it would
have been in 1963. There was a special project created, now well covered,
to restabilize the reverse time wave which would have hit the forward
one in '63 at the node point and wrecked this continent.
It was due to the fact that they had this time rift, and because it
was unstable in the way it was generated (like a standing wave in an
RF transmission line). You may not understand RF theory, but you get
a reverse wave in an unterminated or improperly terminated line. Time
is a wave as well. You can have a forward time wave and you can have
a reverse time wave. If the two of equal amplitude hit each other at
a node point, which is the earth synchronization point, like August
12th, 1963, they can be extremely disruptive, physically, to the physical
structure of the earth.
And being that this project took place in the United States, on Long
island, those who looked at it in theory said it would have caused an
extreme disruption of geological matter, pulling it out of the earth,
in the North American Continent. It would have wound up wrecking the
tectonic plates, and the North American continent, other than the mountains,
would have wound up under salt water-500 to 700 feet of it by estimate.
It didn't happen, obviously-we're here. The '63 project, "Atlanticus
Not Revisited," was successful in damping that reverse time wave. This
is an area of science and technology and physics which most people know
We hope that if the project is revived that it will be used properly
rather than improperly as it was in the past, though there were some
very good uses for the Montauk Project. In a larger view, it might be
better left buried. Only time will tell what will happen, and whether
or not I will play any part with it. They have not asked me. They don't
want to. All we can do is hope for the best for the future and that
the mistakes of the past will be understood and that somehow the future
will come out the better for it in spite of the problems we know we
Connecting Link carries Al Bielek Workshop (2 tapes), "The Philadelph
For speaking and professional engagements, contact
Mr. Bielek at P.O. Box 44932, Phoenix, AZ, 85064.
1 The Montauk Project - Experiments
in Time, Preston B. Nichols with Peter Moon. Sky Books, Box 769, Westbury,
2 Radio frequency electromagnetic
transmissions-especially related to radar.
3 The R & D facility. Production
was at Weymouth, MA - over 4,000 amplitrons were produced.
Mysteries, UFOs, etc.
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